 More About The Morons?
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Sep. 19th, 2007 @ 10:57 pm 
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Reason why some religious people piss me off #46: "It's not right for someone to try and push their religion on my child, but I can try to convert my child's friends because my religion is true."
This isn't true of all religious people, obviously (also that number is made up), but it does seem to be true of my parents. When I was actively Mormon, it did seem like we (the Mormons) had one of the most serious cases of "we're right (and deserve to be able to try and convert everyone) while the rest of the world is wrong (and is rude if they try to push their beliefs on us)". Indeed, it's very easy to see the LDS church as the most perfect religion in the universe, when all you trust is material produced by the church (*cough*cult*cough*). It's also very easy to miss religious double standards you set when you're so thoroughly convinced of the truth of your worldview and never pay any attention to anyone else's.
Since many people don't understand how Mormons differ from regular Christians, I will explain, whether or not I have before (déjà vu):
1. No cross symbolism: In Mormonism (and the Jehova's Witnesses), there are no crosses or crucifixes. In fact, you can look at the steeples on Mormon churches and temples and they will never have any crosses. I bet it would be hard to find a Mormon who really identifies with the cross as much as, say, a Catholic. So, you can't point out that if Jesus had died today, they would be worshipping a gun or electric chair. In fact, Mormons use that same observation against other Christian faiths.
2. No trinity: God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are three separate beings, so you can't discredit a Mormon (or Jehova's Witness) by saying that it's rediculous that Jesus is his own father and sent himself to be sacrificed to atone for mankind's sins. Although you can point out that it's rediculous that humans are so imperfect even though God supposedly created them down to the last selfish instinct and lustful desire (God only knows why a perfect, omnibenevolent God would even conceive of such things to begin with).
3. No Hell: It's one of the most surprising things that non-Mormons learn and often forget about. But don't worry, even Mormons themselves sometimes forget that they don't believe in Hell (i.e. during emotionally charged times when they're pissed off at someone they think is evil). Mormons believe in multiple layers of Heaven, and each layer is better than Earth, but each layer is also better than the one below it (reminds me of a Heaven version of Dante's layered Hell). You must get enough Heaven points in order to actually be right beside Jesus. If I remember correctly, non-believers don't get to be beside Jesus but still go to a paradise, just a lonely Jesus-less one. I commented in an earlier entry that this is part of what makes Mormonism so positive sounding, which attracts many positive people (which may be part of why Mormons always seem like positive people).
4. Baptism by emersion at 8: People are not baptized as babies in the Mormon faith, they are baptized when the church says they're mature enough to make the decision: when they're eight years old of course, when they're completely independent and free of their family's influences and pressures. They are also not sprinkled on the head with blessed water, but completely dunked in it.
5. No Priest, Minister: This makes church a little more interesting. Mormons have several people come up to give their testamonies and share their experiences; to give talks or small speeches. They do not have one person who talks your ear off the whole time. There are, however, clergy-like leaders of any given church. Problems with sin or such as (no confessionals) are usually taken directly to the Bishop (the highest authority in an individual ward, which is any given group that meets together at any one time at any one church on a Sunday), who talks to you face to face about it and, like a psychiatrist, has an obligation to not spread your dirty secrets.
(P.S.)6. Mormons don't molest children. At least, you don't hear about it as much as molestation in Catholic or protestant churches. The Mormon church is always afraid to let people know about facts which make people think their religion is tainted in some way; less than perfect. Any time you have authority figures guide and take care of children, especially if they can be alone together, you'll occasionally have sexual molestation. Of course, these authority figures are chosen by God, so he must just occasionally prefer to put pedophiles ahead of primary classes, in order to test the children. This goes for any other religion which claims to be infallible.
I have probably written about all of this before, all of it, but I can't help it; when my brain starts churning thoughts I must write them down (if I think they're good enough). Think of it as a repeated rerun redux all over again.Mood:  lazy |
*shudders* I.. HATE Mormons *curls up in her corner* 3 1/2 years in their "holy land" of Utah..... that place is pure and utter rubbish. the town didn't even have a gas station, but we have count em FOUR churches o_O you had to drive the 10-20 minutes to a different town for food/essentials.
And all the little BS rules "no dating till 16, no sex till marriage, women can only have one piercing per ear and no more, men can't have any, nobody should have tattoos... coffee and caffeine and even herbal tea are a big nono" that place just pissed me the fuck off >m
Yeah, I grew up Mormon. My mom drinks herbal tea, although the Doctrine and Covenants forbids "hot drinks", so technically they shouldn't even drink hot cocoa. I guess the majority of Mormons interpret "hot drinks" as caffeine for some reason?
Never heard no hot drinks o_O;; in mine they juist taught "no tea because it's against the rules" of course I didn't listen, why listen to the sky wizard. (if there is a religion and we were given "free choice" I think he'd want us to USE it and not follow some "true" religions that just instill BS and fear.
And Mormonism has it's own hell, besides the hell on earth "Outer Darkness" where people like Hitler are "supposedly" going.
Actually, the outer darkness is for those who knew the Holy Spirit and then denied it. So Hitler's going to Mormon paradise. Didn't they even try to give Hitler a baptism-for-the-dead?
xD who knows ;P and I guess I'm going to outer darkness then :D oh well... better than their "paradises"
So true, of course the worst unpardonable sin being disbelief screams bullshit to me.
or one pissed off god ;P if that's the "ultimate sin" I know the ultimate punishment for people in OD
I don't see how a god would be offended by insignificant people not believing in him. It seems like belief would benefit the religion, who needs money and converts, rather than an 'omnipotent' God.
Agreed.. unless god isn't omnipotent or all loving, just some galactic kid, like a human boy who got his fav toy taken away, throwing a tantrum when people like other things better than him?
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Yeah, I know most do >< just, try living in Utah [ Error: Irreparable invalid markup ('<_<>') in entry. Owner must fix manually. Raw contents below.] Yeah, I know most do >< just, try living in Utah <_< they're EVERYWHERE o_O and they all know each other *shuder* you do somethign wrong, the mormons close to you hear about it in a day >.O
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